twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I agree. Arguing doesn't really help anything. Dig the conversation,tho. message me anytime,I'd be glad to hear from you. take care

Mrgyn (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I hate to argue about such things for no reason. It's silly that a Ryan Gracie video has turned into such a debate, lol.

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

the Bible is truth,much proven by archaeology.the O.T. was wrote for people at that time&place.the N.T. is for everyone and has made much of the OT obsolete(besides morality)most people have sense of right &wrong,but peoples hearts can be deceitful. A lot of influences say it ok to strike,kill,steal,lie,ect. Dont make it right. If there isn't a moral standard,there need to be no punishment,jail,ect. Everyone would claim he's "right".those who dont have truth judged by whats in their heart.

tkstka (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

there is nothing truth about the bible.. So many sadistic rules and contradictions it's hard to believe. Bible doesnt provide any morals.. If you think it's more to be afraid of hell and obey then do a good thing out of your own heart then there is something wrong with you. Now I dont judge anyone but you have to see that you wouldnt hit some stranger in the face out of nowhere because bible says "do to other as you would like to be done to you" but because you think it's wrong to hit someone

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

earth hung on nothing recirded in Bible approx.1500+BC. greek empire didn't really exist till approx 340BC..they taught earth carried on back of Atlas.Bible stated truth over 1000yrs.before greek empire existed.roman empire started approx 200BC. they took most their religion/myths from greeks. it's good to seek Truth and see where it really leads...

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

yeah,I only recently heard of Ryan myself. Didn't know him. Looked like a world class A+ grappler...

Mrgyn (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Greeks and the Romans figured out everything you just said LONG before the bible.

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The Bible does provide moral value(dont steal,murder,commit adultery,obey law,provide for family,how to treat others,ect)To say Christianity dont teach morals is like saying a BJJ school don't teach grappling,or course it does. But you have to want it.Then you have to study it,work at it, make it part of you. To know something and do something are not always the same thing. Applies to teachings of Jesus/new testament as well. trying to be "cool"thing,I hear ya.tend to become like your friends

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I too believe man cant fully understand God.But I believe we can understand what He reveals to us.There is advanced knowledge in the Bible that can't be easily explained by human logic;earth hung on nothing(Job 1500+B.C.)lot of religion/cultures taught earth carried on the back of a creature,ect.some others;water in space(comets,rings of saturn,ect)Sun travels in space,ect,ect.from 1500-500BC.we believe all men know theres something more,we believe too much proof for Bible to be fictional. peace

tkstka (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

that's just my analyzing of the sitsuation. I dont know him personaly so I really dont know anything but what rumors and stories I hear and read. So dont take my stupid mumbling as a word of truth. You know him best by asking people who lived with him and knew him from childhood